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Flash Comparisons - TD-Hurricane-EVO other

I would have guessed your background would have come from boosting dodge diesel trucks , not a car ....
 

I agree 100%. Let the users post. vendors posting will not help this thread in any fashion. It will only make more problems and arguments. Then I will have to lock and delete it.
If we don't have a say and can't even argue why our tunes are worth buying what's the point of a us being in a discussion board? Yes we can advertise our products that's good. But we also need to convince guys on why to pick us.

I am very careful to use facts and not to offend my peers. But at one point when we start comparing for sure sometimes it won't please the other vendor...

Example here when we talk about tunes we've been testing all winter last year and released after months of testing vs tunes built on a dyno this summer. This is not a bash it's just pointing out a fact. You decide if it's good or bad.

Why can't we inform people of this ? If they want to buy the tune from the competitor so be it...I won't argue ... But I feel like we should be able to make a case for ourselves.

Furthermore, it seems like even members of the board can't emit an opinion that is remotely negative. And now people just don't say anything in fear of getting a warning...

I totally agree about the no bashing policy but an opinion should accepted as long as it's not pure bashing
 
If we don't have a say and can't even argue why our tunes are worth buying what's the point of a us being in a discussion board? Yes we can advertise our products that's good. But we also need to convince guys on why to pick us.

I am very careful to use facts and not to offend my peers. But at one point when we start comparing for sure sometimes it won't please the other vendor...

Example here when we talk about tunes we've been testing all winter last year and released after months of testing vs tunes built on a dyno this summer. This is not a bash it's just pointing out a fact. You decide if it's good or bad.

Why can't we inform people of this ? If they want to buy the tune from the competitor so be it...I won't argue ... But I feel like we should be able to make a case for ourselves.

Furthermore, it seems like even members of the board can't emit an opinion that is remotely negative. And now people just don't say anything in fear of getting a warning...

I totally agree about the no bashing policy but an opinion should accepted as long as it's not pure bashing
You’re so convinced the others don’t test, how can you be so sure? Why is it that you’re the only vendor stating how great your products are? Shouldn’t you let your customers do that? Isn’t it what the threads about? I totally agree with Mr.Sled, it should be about the consumer sharing info. The bs starts with posts like yours as you spew info with little facts. We know you do lots of testing, but to come on here and say others don’t is horse #*$&@
 
Features and benefits of a product is what sells a product.
Taking jabs don't....
 
Ben
I get sick of you spreading that your better then dyno tunes. Which we all know is reflected towards me. The fact is that hurricane flashes originate on the dyno and are finished on the trails or track. It helps to expedite the tuning process when we use a controlled environment such as a dyno. After ten years of it, some may say I’m good at it. Not to mention that the dyno accurately measures engine Hp. How else can we rate our tunes accurately but on an engine dyno.
As usual, you’ve put me and other flash companies on the defensive.normally I try to keep quiet to save the controversy but I think this has gone on far enough.
Having said all that Ben, you’ll notice that I didn’t take this opportunity to put you on the offensive cause I’m busy properly marketing Hurricane performance products. You should be as busy
 
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Ben
I get sick of you spreading that your better then dyno tunes. Which we all know is reflected towards me. The fact is that hurricane flashes originate on the dyno and are finished on the trails or track. It helps to expedite the tuning process when we use a controlled environment such as a dyno. After ten years of it, some may say I’m good at it. Not to mention that the dyno accurately measures engine Hp. How else can we rate our tunes accurately but on an engine dyno.
As usual, you’ve put me and other flash companies on the defensive.normally I try to keep quiet to save the controversy but I think this has gone on far enough.
Having said all that Ben, you’ll notice that I didn’t take this opportunity to put you on the offensive cause I’m busy properly marketing Hurricane performance products. You should by as busy
I would rather have an actual horsepower number as apposed to guesstimated.
 
If we don't have a say and can't even argue why our tunes are worth buying what's the point of a us being in a discussion board? Yes we can advertise our products that's good. But we also need to convince guys on why to pick us.

I am very careful to use facts and not to offend my peers. But at one point when we start comparing for sure sometimes it won't please the other vendor...

Example here when we talk about tunes we've been testing all winter last year and released after months of testing vs tunes built on a dyno this summer. This is not a bash it's just pointing out a fact. You decide if it's good or bad.

Why can't we inform people of this ? If they want to buy the tune from the competitor so be it...I won't argue ... But I feel like we should be able to make a case for ourselves.

Furthermore, it seems like even members of the board can't emit an opinion that is remotely negative. And now people just don't say anything in fear of getting a warning...

I totally agree about the no bashing policy but an opinion should accepted as long as it's not pure bashing


You never sit back and let the product sell itself You always seem to have the last word good or bad. You will run your self off the forums. Your over bearing and pushing your product is what got you tossed off of other boards. You can say your piece but leave it at that. You are beating a dead horse by repeating the same thing over and over. We got it the first time. I just don’t understand why you can’t let the product sell itself. Since I am allowing you you’re right to express yourself let me express myself. When I see you post something I don’t even read it anymore because I’ve seen it a million times already on my site and facebook. What I look for is people who actually have your product on their sleds and post real true valuable opinions. But you’re right, I am the one that wants to control everything. But you on the other hand ... I’m not even sure how to classify what you do. You wanted discussion. Here’s discussion.
 
You never sit back and let the product sell itself You always seem to have the last word good or bad. You will run your self off the forums. Your over bearing and pushing your product is what got you tossed off of other boards. You can say your piece but leave it at that. You are beating a dead horse by repeating the same thing over and over. We got it the first time. I just don’t understand why you can’t let the product sell itself. Since I am allowing you you’re right to express yourself let me express myself. When I see you post something I don’t even read it anymore because I’ve seen it a million times already on my site and facebook. What I look for is people who actually have your product on their sleds and post real true valuable opinions. But you’re right, I am the one that wants to control everything. But you on the other hand ... I’m not even sure how to classify what you do. You wanted discussion. Here’s discussion.
Wait for it.....
 
Thread went too far. It sucks because I thought maybe we could have healthy comparisons , for the different type of
Riders out there. There’s enough advertising every where else.
 
Not necessarily out of control...it still can be effective if some don’t get too carried away...I’m rather enjoying this lol...
 
You’re so convinced the others don’t test, how can you be so sure? Why is it that you’re the only vendor stating how great your products are? Shouldn’t you let your customers do that? Isn’t it what the threads about? I totally agree with Mr.Sled, it should be about the consumer sharing info. The bs starts with posts like yours as you spew info with little facts. We know you do lots of testing, but to come on here and say others don’t is horse #*$&@

Dave stated himself that these are brand new tunes. So this is fact. I'm not saying they are bad. I'm saying they have not been snow tested all winter like mine.that is fact....

Now I see you don't like me now that's your opinion and you are entitled to it. but I say nothing wrong here. Truth hurts sometimes.
 
I would have guessed your background would have come from boosting dodge diesel trucks , not a car ....
Cars...not trucks. Turbo dodge cars... Shelby
 


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