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New Engine in 2016 Vipers and Other Changes

Thanks, just need to put on all my treats that you guys on here suggested.
 

BFS said:
Yes sir, engine and tuner 3's. Have to say for first Yamaha the fit/finish looks good.
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I check one at the dealer just like yours with a build date on 05/2015 and it had the new motor.
 
Hi guys,what is the track HP of the apex 2011 and up?I changed for ltx le red héritage because my dealer Will receive only early build blue!!
 
jeff_yam said:
Nitride can be gold also... black nitride is used for tools.
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Yes have seen many Carbide tools with both black and Gold Titanium Nitride. But that is for wear. Black Nitride is mostly done for corrosion. They do a lot of guns with it.
 
smoothride said:
This should kill the resale value of my old 16 spring ordered sled in a nut shell.
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Look at stone 88 picture of the new jackshaft. It looks like ours.

And I'd like to here the dealer tell me my trade in value is less because of the build date.
I'll be flipping side by sides on the floor.
 
BFS said:
Yes sir, engine and tuner 3's. Have to say for first Yamaha the fit/finish looks good.
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O ya. I think these sleds are the sharpest looking on the trail. I went and seen my buddy's f 1100, I know they are the same chassis. That sled doesn't even feel the same to sit on.
 
So if I spring ordered a 2016 sr viper ltx LE and it arrived at dealer on sept 1 st you guys are telling me it will not have the updates to the motor ? I thought that it was only referring to early build 16 sleds that Yamaha had on showrooms in April. Haven't picked mine up yet. But it's still at dealer. Are there people that have ordered ltx LE in spring that sled came in that has old motors in here that can confirm this ?
 
OK guys here is my take on things and why I opted to keep my early build with the old motor, first of all the motor has been obviously been built stronger on the bottom end for future boost (the 2017 cat turbo) but what concerned me is the pistons they have been lightened up by 12 grams which in the end will be weaker for boost for the guys like us that are putting on aftermarket turbos. Now that being said I think they went to the lighter pistons for the N/A guys and if it come from the factory (cat) they will have low compression pistons in it and will be beefed up, so you have a choice weaker pistons in the new motor or weaker rods in the old motor. the old motor on stock internals with race gas was turned up to 16.5# this summer and was a complete animal with tons of torque and with 7000 boosted miles is still perfect and my buddy s with head shim rods and head studs with stock pistons ran 28# and is still perfect.
I'm basing my guess on the pistons after my 09 Apex had a 290 kit on it and the pistons were perfect and and my 2011 apex cracke all 4 pistons and 1 broke and destroyed my motor and every 2011 and up that I have seen has had cracked pistons because Yamaha lightened them up.Who Knows if the new pistons will hold up I,m sure at 6# they will but after that its a crap shoot. JMHO
 
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