JMS@Yamaha
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JMS have you experienced any darting after the trails set up with these new ski's. I have tried numerous ski and carbide set up's i like the way the single carbide bites in the corners but they can be kinda sketchy in certain trail conditions darting all over the place. I have had good luck with the Cat ski and staggered carbides. I am now running the snow trackers and they are hands down the best set up I have tried so far. I have herd that Yamaha may be offering a staggered carbide for the new ski.
Trail models will come standard with a staggered carbide set up, this carbide worked very well in testing to reduce/eliminate and darting in the front end when the snow was very very hard and there were existing tracks that froze in from the night before.
I have also run this ski with single runners and only noticed a slight amount of darting in certain snow conditions. Cornering confidence was also still very good.
Really like this set-up. Been "shimming" for years with slider chunks, rubber pieces and plastic like the sheets Triton uses down the middle of their trailers. Attached to rubber mounts with brass screws, stainless screws, various glues and epoxies, etc. All would help but would soon "sag in" to rubber mount and would need to be re-fitted. A factory set-up is definitely the way to go. Carbide bolts appear to hold shims firmly in place? Look to be perfect for wife's Viper- tried Slydogs but she finds steering effort too great. Big question - how do they compare to the Yamaha Mtn ski (which I find are a good improvement for cornering and greatly enhanced floatation on long powder lake runs)? Even bigger, will they be available in blue with white handles to match 2019 SRX?
The skis will be available in Blue, not 100% on white handles as the 21 SRX handles are silver.
I am a big fan of the MTN skis, they work very well when set up properly. These new ski's make the snowmobile feel lighter through the corner and have lighter steering effort then the MTN ski (Depending on carbide set up of course). The stryke will have less flotation then the mountain due to the width difference, however a vast improvement over the tuner. Low speed handling seems to be the biggest challenge for the MTN ski, the Stryke excels in low speed handing. Cornering confidence for both skis is very good. Overall the new ski works very good, big improvement over the tuner for my riding style.
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Trail models will come standard with a staggered carbide set up, this carbide worked very well in testing to reduce/eliminate and darting in the front end when the snow was very very hard and there were existing tracks that froze in from the night before.
I have also run this ski with single runners and only noticed a slight amount of darting in certain snow conditions. Cornering confidence was also still very good.
The skis will be available in Blue, not 100% on white handles as the 21 SRX handles are silver.
I am a big fan of the MTN skis, they work very well when set up properly. These new ski's make the snowmobile feel lighter through the corner and have lighter steering effort then the MTN ski (Depending on carbide set up of course). The stryke will have less flotation then the mountain due to the width difference, however a vast improvement over the tuner. Low speed handling seems to be the biggest challenge for the MTN ski, the Stryke excels in low speed handing. Cornering confidence for both skis is very good. Overall the new ski works very good, big improvement over the tuner for my riding style.
nice report. Hoping for good reports on new models!
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Thanks JMS for answering questions on the ski's you have done a great with all the questions and comments on this site.
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Saved this attachments. Thank you Jaret.Shims are they grey blocks below the black rubber.
- 140mm width, 5.5"
- They float much better then the tuner's in loose snow.
- They will retrofit to all 2014+ SRViper / Sidewinder models, some hardware may be required (Bolts etc.)
- Ski needs to be removed for shim change.
- Shim's are below the rubber block, we will offer shims through our accessory channel with different thicknesses and angles to adjust the ski loading.
- Front Shim- Steering Effort, Aggressiveness, Comfort.
- Rear Shim- Hard to Soft snow conditions, force on length of keel in snow.
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Saw at demo sled at dealer her in maine, wider LTX GT It does come with the staggered carbide like the earlier Viper single keel ski? looked like the setup will be an improvement over the tuners for sure. I hope that snow trackers will be available for this ski. I have tried many skis on my Apex LTX GT but hands down best was the VK SKI with snow trackers! Great flotation and the trackers just work for my style of riding ! I did laugh though about the shimming idea....... been doing that since the 90"s I guess Yamaha finally listened!
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I spring Ordered 2 srxs yesterday. I have ran single keels with snowtrackers for a few years now and found they worked very well. I am hoping these will be available or a woodys slim jim option. Always found Yamaha did not put on enough carbide for me. Obviously a personal preference. Used to shim as well but didnt find it necessary with the snowtrackers.
2? You lucky bugger! Congrats!I spring Ordered 2 srxs yesterday. I have ran single keels with snowtrackers for a few years now and found they worked very well. I am hoping these will be available or a woodys slim jim option. Always found Yamaha did not put on enough carbide for me. Obviously a personal preference. Used to shim as well but didnt find it necessary with the snowtrackers.
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Thanks. Ones mine ones hers. First time buying new. Coming off an apex xtx hope I like it.
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SOMETHING wrong with ya if ya dont like it.Thanks. Ones mine ones hers. First time buying new. Coming off an apex xtx hope I like it.
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I came off a ‘13 xtx ape to my ‘20 ltx Le. Even in stock trim it is light years better. To have a suspension is unreal. Lol. You won’t be disappointed at all in the winder. I put 450 miles on then did break in service and flashed it with all the supporting mods to go with the cluster reflash. Absolute animal for a pump gas trail sled. Slinging 144, 1.630 triggers in double backer I hit 121 mph Speedo last winter. Hit 119 spedo with my ape but the winder gets the much faster and for lack of a better term, more violently. Lol.Thanks. Ones mine ones hers. First time buying new. Coming off an apex xtx hope I like it.
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I came off a ‘13 xtx ape to my ‘20 ltx Le. Even in stock trim it is light years better. To have a suspension is unreal. Lol. You won’t be disappointed at all in the winder. I put 450 miles on then did break in service and flashed it with all the supporting mods to go with the cluster reflash. Absolute animal for a pump gas trail sled. Slinging 144, 1.630 triggers in double backer I hit 121 mph Speedo last winter. Hit 119 spedo with my ape but the winder gets the much faster and for lack of a better term, more violently. Lol.
Power steering and reliability were the only 2 things I was really worried about missing. Always thought my apex pulled pretty good until I drove a tuned winder.
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Came off a 2015 Apex xtx to 2020 ltx-le. I was worried about the power steering .(shoulder Surgery) I only got around 800 hundred miles in last year on it and the steering was fine. I mean you definitely notice it but after a few rides i forgot about the power steering. I never was sore. The first time taking the apex out and you turn the bars your like what the hell. Night and day with the suspension. I will never get rid of my Apex .
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So take away the tuners and add darting and more steeeing effort that doesn't sound like a win/ win too mewith the history of Yamaha skis, ending with tuners that I wouldn't put on a vintage sled. I can take a guess how good they will be.
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Guys for years i would read these ‘new ski posts and someone invariably would come on and say just add Snotrackers to any single keel ski and it will track and not dart or push....I finally bit and they just flat out work great. I think Steiner has for years had trackers with old Yamaha mountain skis and I think that would be the way to go for both flotation and tracking. So now I am the GUY. LOL
I have them on Apex XTX and Vector with Curves.
I have them on Apex XTX and Vector with Curves.
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I've always enjoyed threads like this (what's the best ski, track, oil, etc.) especially during the quiet summer months so I thought I'd through my two cents in. For those guys that have tried different set ups over the years there's a wide range of opinions which is great to see. There's a lot to learn from others past experiences on what works and what doesn't as Yamadoo just posted.
Whenever I set up my own personal sleds for my wife and myself I always place a premium on handling in the conditions that we ride in. Mostly the Keweenaw area of the UP of MI that has varied snow conditions during the riding season. Could be fresh lake effect snow early in the season and hard packed groomed trails later in the season. Sometimes loose, sugar snow early in the day and rock hard later in the day.
From my experience I've found that the SLP MoHawk skis work the best on our SideWinder's in the conditions that we ride in. I've got a new 2021 SRX coming that has the new Yamaha Stryke ski. I've had a few years dialing in our sleds with the SLP MoHawks and I'm actually looking forwards to giving the new Stryke ski a fair shake this season.
I've talked to a few guys that have actually had a chance to try the new Stryke ski last spring at the annual snomobile media event in West Yellowstone and they told me that it's the real deal. It's unfortunate that Yamaha didn't have the shims available for anyone to try at that event, but from what I've heard I'm going to try the new SRX with the stock skis for a fair amount of miles before I make up my mind if they work for me or not.
I've got no problem giving my honest opinion of them after I get some miles on them. I really hope that after all these years that Yamaha has finally hit a home run with these new Stryke skis.
Whenever I set up my own personal sleds for my wife and myself I always place a premium on handling in the conditions that we ride in. Mostly the Keweenaw area of the UP of MI that has varied snow conditions during the riding season. Could be fresh lake effect snow early in the season and hard packed groomed trails later in the season. Sometimes loose, sugar snow early in the day and rock hard later in the day.
From my experience I've found that the SLP MoHawk skis work the best on our SideWinder's in the conditions that we ride in. I've got a new 2021 SRX coming that has the new Yamaha Stryke ski. I've had a few years dialing in our sleds with the SLP MoHawks and I'm actually looking forwards to giving the new Stryke ski a fair shake this season.
I've talked to a few guys that have actually had a chance to try the new Stryke ski last spring at the annual snomobile media event in West Yellowstone and they told me that it's the real deal. It's unfortunate that Yamaha didn't have the shims available for anyone to try at that event, but from what I've heard I'm going to try the new SRX with the stock skis for a fair amount of miles before I make up my mind if they work for me or not.
I've got no problem giving my honest opinion of them after I get some miles on them. I really hope that after all these years that Yamaha has finally hit a home run with these new Stryke skis.
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