KnappAttack
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I have the K&N X stream where the end of the filter is not blocked off and is up against the air intake vent screen. What do you think about just blocking off the rest of the exposed filter, would be easy to do because it already has a pre filter over it?
No, you sure don't want to limit the filter exposure, there is not enough air going thru the end of x-steam to provide the flow needed.
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Thoughts on removing factory frogskin and replacing it with household window screen material?
The filter of course would have a outwears sock.
The filter of course would have a outwears sock.
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@hibshman25 Travis, get on it!End is very small Dia. 2.5" and right against stock screen. Ya, testing was done WFO turn around and go again ver high speeds up at 100 or so, only slowing to turn around. It's just plain too hot under the hood, bottom line and stock airbox does better job of pulling in cooler air, but of course is more restrictive. I also pulled the stock filter and still restrictive. Then pulled cover and of course it's then pulling very hot air.
If you could pull "ACTUAL OUTSIDE" cool air rather than air from under the hood, the intake temps would drop accordingly and the intake would not heat soak the intercooler so dang quickly.
KnappAttack
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My solution to getting actual ambient cold air in to the intake. Water resistant Outerwears sock is ordered as I know it will be needed for snow usage. I hate the fact its outside the hood, but I'll order up a new factory screen that has to have a hole put in it so very easy to go back to stock, no need to put holes in hoods that is irreversible or anything like that. If I don't like it, I can go back easy enough.
Reminds me of the filters that stuck out from the side of the old Cat Suzuki 1100 turbos between the a-arms on the clutch side.
I just had to ad on to the inlet tube with a silicone coupler and length of formed and curved alum tube, then put a hole thru the factory screen. If it adds power or makes it more consistent, which I believe it will do both, I'm all for it. Its not a beauty contest after all.
Reminds me of the filters that stuck out from the side of the old Cat Suzuki 1100 turbos between the a-arms on the clutch side.
I just had to ad on to the inlet tube with a silicone coupler and length of formed and curved alum tube, then put a hole thru the factory screen. If it adds power or makes it more consistent, which I believe it will do both, I'm all for it. Its not a beauty contest after all.
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Why not go with the intake on the 2018 mountain Sidewinders? They pull cold air in thought the dash pod like the 2 stroke Cats? I did the same setup on my turbo Viper using the 2 stroke parts and plumbed it into my MPI intake. I get a super cold charge and it appears as factory. Works great! But with you Sidewinder guys having new 2018 Sidewinder parts available, it can’t get anymore bolt-on easy than that!
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I can't see the cai intake getting any cold air from underhood especially on a mountain sled...play in the trees and make a couple pulls up the hill and it's cooking under the hood. unless your doing 50+ mph to ram cold air into the underhood area
KnappAttack
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Why not go with the intake on the 2018 mountain Sidewinders? They pull cold air in thought the dash pod like the 2 stroke Cats? I did the same setup on my turbo Viper using the 2 stroke parts and plumbed it into my MPI intake. I get a super cold charge and it appears as factory. Works great! But with you Sidewinder guys having new 2018 Sidewinder parts available, it can’t get anymore bolt-on easy than that!
Same intake that's on each and every sidewinder stock since 2017. Nothing to change.
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THe mountain Sidewinders don’t have the CAI under the hood. It comes in through the dash pod that goes around the handlebar riser.
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THe mountain Sidewinders don’t have the CAI under the hood. It comes in through the dash pod that goes around the handlebar riser.
So does every stock sidewinder that come off the line. Nothing any different about them at all. There all the same one every version of the SideWinder.
We add the aftermarket intakes that are under the hood as they make a bit more boost and need a bit more fuel, even though they run warmer.
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Damn that windshield is a monster!!!My solution to getting actual ambient cold air in to the intake. Water resistant Outerwears sock is ordered as I know it will be needed for snow usage. I hate the fact its outside the hood, but I'll order up a new factory screen that has to have a hole put in it so very easy to go back to stock, no need to put holes in hoods that is irreversible or anything like that. If I don't like it, I can go back easy enough.
Reminds me of the filters that stuck out from the side of the old Cat Suzuki 1100 turbos between the a-arms on the clutch side.
I just had to ad on to the inlet tube with a silicone coupler and length of formed and curved alum tube, then put a hole thru the factory screen. If it adds power or makes it more consistent, which I believe it will do both, I'm all for it. Its not a beauty contest after all.
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KnappAttack
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Damn that windshield is a monster!!!
HAHA, it does look big in that picture doesn't it. Gotta be the angle I'm taking it from, same as every other DX shield out there.
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I have Ak intake..kn filter up against the screen with filter material on the end... So ram air...
And outwear pre filter added... At slow speeds I can see under hood air affecting.... But at speed I feel otherwise... I've also removed the under hood intake tract which creates more room for fresh air in...
And outwear pre filter added... At slow speeds I can see under hood air affecting.... But at speed I feel otherwise... I've also removed the under hood intake tract which creates more room for fresh air in...
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https://www.google.com/search?q=201...C&biw=601&bih=962#imgrc=nstV8rzaZOESAM:&isa=y
He's talking about this stock intake on the 2018 mtx sleds.
He's talking about this stock intake on the 2018 mtx sleds.
KnappAttack
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I have Ak intake..kn filter up against the screen with filter material on the end... So ram air...
And outwear pre filter added... At slow speeds I can see under hood air affecting.... But at speed I feel otherwise... I've also removed the under hood intake tract which creates more room for fresh air in...
I also removed the underhood intake tract.
Still 100 degrees up there right on the filter element. Put a thermometer up on the filter and tell me what you get. The thermometer doesn't lie. Its the reason I was seeing hot intake temps while the guys with the stock intake were seeing much cooler temps with the same exact tunes. 25-30 difference between us. Stock intakes were that much cooler.
It is what it is.
KnappAttack
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https://www.google.com/search?q=201...C&biw=601&bih=962#imgrc=nstV8rzaZOESAM:&isa=y
He's talking about this stock intake on the 2018 mtx sleds.
Same intake track that's on all the sidewinders, just pulling from top instead of the sides. Still cold fresh air there. The stock Winder pulls cold air stock. Much cooler stock than from under the hood where the aftermarket CAI's are going.
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