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How many vipers with starters going bad?

That sucks! I'm afraid to start mine and that's awful. The thing is only 2 years old with 1500 miles. I'm the second owner so no warranty if mine goes and that's horseshit in my opinion. Starting to wish I bought a doo 1200...

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That sucks! I'm afraid to start mine and that's awful. The thing is only 2 years old with 1500 miles. I'm the second owner so no warranty if mine goes and that's horseshit in my opinion. Starting to wish I bought a doo 1200...

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Yup it does but I do believe that Yamaha is still warranty it after the warranty runs out because It's such a known and horrible problem. My 1 year warranty doesn't run out until January but I opted for the 5 year when my dealer got a sale on them this summer.


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That sucks! I'm afraid to start mine and that's awful. The thing is only 2 years old with 1500 miles. I'm the second owner so no warranty if mine goes and that's horseshit in my opinion. Starting to wish I bought a doo 1200...

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Yamaha will cover the costs. You can't do anything to stop it from happening. Sooner of later it will happen to every one. I'm second owner and they paid for all the parts. I did the work myself because I wanted to because I have a turbo and didn't want I put together wrong or half a$$.


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Mine is an arctic cat 7000 though. I doubt AC will be as understanding as Yamaha. It's terrible especially if it happens out on the trail.

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Dirtbikekid, best of luck with the repair. Hope you get it back before it snows!

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Dirtbikekid, best of luck with the repair. Hope you get it back before it snows!

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Thanks! I will post back when I get word from them. But I'm not to worried snow/ cold weather looks really far away. Rain tomorrow and Monday and still in the 40s all next week....


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Heres a vid of when mine went. Trail would have been nice. Lol.


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Ya that would have sucked... It's funny I remembered that and went and watched it right after it happened haha. But myn sounds nothing like that. Just the solenoid clicks and nothing.. But it was a horrible sound I never want to here again...


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You might be lucky and it's just the magnets let go. Mine never bound up. Tell the shop you can pull starter by removing the full exhaust and oil filter and it will drop out the bottom access hole.


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You might be lucky and it's just the magnets let go. Mine never bound up. Tell the shop you can pull starter by removing the full exhaust and oil filter and it will drop out the bottom access hole.


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Hopefully! Thanks for the info I will tell them when I call tomorrow.


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Have you tried Jumper cables Dirtbikekid? Not that this is just a bad battery.
No I didn't but I did try a battery tester to see if if it was but it was fine a little low but fine. So just to try I put our charger on it for a hour and then tried again with same result..


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Not to go off topic, however after having the EVO reflash (2.5 air/exhaust/high octane) I have not had the start stutter/kickback issue.

The sled was OEM updated/flashed at the dealer before I purchased it in Jan 14 - I had the kickback one time after purchasing and ever since I just held the key a second longer knowing it started. By holding the key you won't get the kickback anymore but you will get a "stutter" start occasionally.

After the evo reflash no issues starting no matter how you hit the key.

There is no doubt in my mind that this is a programming issue in most cases. Odd that some assemblies are effected while others are not. That usually points to variations in components (sensors as well as discrete components in the controller) and the software's ability to deal with the variations.
 
Not to go off topic, however after having the EVO reflash (2.5 air/exhaust/high octane) I have not had the start stutter/kickback issue.

The sled was OEM updated/flashed at the dealer before I purchased it in Jan 14 - I had the kickback one time after purchasing and ever since I just held the key a second longer knowing it started. By holding the key you won't get the kickback anymore but you will get a "stutter" start occasionally.

After the evo reflash no issues starting no matter how you hit the key.

There is no doubt in my mind that this is a programming issue in most cases. Odd that some assemblies are effected while others are not. That usually points to variations in components (sensors as well as discrete components in the controller) and the software's ability to deal with the variations.

Yes as I said early on doing a bios flash remotely is just not done in the computer world for just this reason. A bios update is loaded locally and ran from there as TCP-IP is a bit sloppy on bit checks as you download, but if you download the complete file and do a bit check it pulls down any missing bits. I am a computer systems engineer in my day job and any critical software is downloaded and installed, some cannot even be installed the way Yamaha is doing there bios updates. Is this the problem? Maybe not but going against best practices makes this part suspect. The fact that EVO reflash fixes obvious issues lends credence to this.
 


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