fri nite testing at union grove 6-19-04. after establishing a baseline rx-1 for our test comparision, we installed our production simons cpr trail turbo on the rx-1 set to 8 lbs of boost. the engine was completely stock and was run on premium pump fuel, previously, the stock rx-1 ran 10.80s at 114 mph, the first run off the trailer, the simons cpr turbo ran a 9.59 at 132.65 mph, and then we had to screw around the rest of the nite getting our driver licenced to run in the 9,s. this left us with only enough time to make a couple of changes. the end result was a 1.463 60 ft time, 3.893 330 ft time, 5.997 1/8 mile time at 115.35 mph, 7.889 1000 ft time, and a 9.552 1/4 mile time at 133.51 mph, all on pump gas!!! with a standard production simons cpr rx-1 turbo kit!!! and our simons cpr supertune clutch kit!!! on a stock rx-1 engine!!! not bad for a first outing. everyone is invited down to union grove tommorrrow (sat) where the rx-1 will be on display as well as being raced. there will be great traction during tommorrows race and the simons cpr turbo'd rx-1 should get into the 9.4s.......... 
i can't make it to the track tommorrow, but ask for john z at the track if you have any questions, we work with john on many projects, and he will be campaigning our rx-1 turbo package all season long. call me at 414-698-6611 and i can let you know of future times that we will be at the track displaying this 9 second trail monster. 
jeff
i can't make it to the track tommorrow, but ask for john z at the track if you have any questions, we work with john on many projects, and he will be campaigning our rx-1 turbo package all season long. call me at 414-698-6611 and i can let you know of future times that we will be at the track displaying this 9 second trail monster. jeff
THAT'S FAST! 
Your killing me with this turbo suff 
, as I really want one. Let's see add add & carry the one, humm do you have lay away! Gotta get me a turbo 
Your killing me with this turbo suff , as I really want one. Let's see add add & carry the one, humm do you have lay away! Gotta get me a turbo 
Congrats Jeff. Thats honkin...BBY
Im not surprised, 'Great Job' JEFF, But dont forget guys like me that cant afford a turbo. Are you still working on new none turbo products?...Also do you know yet if your coming to the NOVI mi show yet?... If my wife can find a new job affter the one she has now moves to Mexico, then a turbo could be in my near future. For now hope all goes well on your turbo...Gary.
thanks guys, we will be coming to the novi show, and we have lots of new products coming for the rx-1 and vector 4 strokes. jeff
Congrats. Seems very fast for a 190 hp sled that weighs that much but you must be doing somthing right. Are you using a Whal or a proline skid?
J, its a Firecat Skid. Whats cool is the first pass was sub 9.6 seconds. No matter how you look at it, thats moving. Imagine how its going to run when its dialed in ...BBY
...BBY
Rafreche
Newbie
I wonder if that kit on a 2005 will do even better... because of the few pounds saved on the 2005? However before I buy any kit... this kit need to be bullet proof during winter time. I want a kit that is mounted at the front end. The rear end kits are good but might be to noisy for me and the Quebec rules!
Ray in Val-Belair
Quebec
Ray in Val-Belair
Quebec
jtsrx, its actually pretty easy to run those times with the cpr turbo kit, mike hyman, (buster 696) is also running our turbo kit at 8lbs of boost, and is having alot of traction problems because of his wahl suspension, and he is still runing in the 9.7's. its not how much horsepower you have, its how long it takes to get it, how broad it is, and how you use it. our turbo gains over 17 mph in the first 1/8 mile alone, and runs a faster 60 ft time than a stock supertuned rx-1. thats what i would call instant response without a turbo lag, the guys raced the sled today at union grove and the traction was great, our 60 ft times are back down in the 1.3s, and because of the increase in traction, they ran 9.38et at 134+ mph, i will get the time slip and post it tommorrow. we will be back at the track on tuesday nite if it doesn't rain, the traction should still be good, and we are hoping to squeak a 9.29 out of it, with some more clutching and gearing changes. we actually need to lower the engagement because we have so much instant horsepower, it tends to break traction very easily, its only 4000 rpms right now, but we think we need around 3500 rpms or lower. jeff
i will get the time slip and post it tommorrow. we will be back at the track on tuesday nite if it doesn't rain, the traction should still be good, and we are hoping to squeak a 9.29 out of it, with some more clutching and gearing changes. we actually need to lower the engagement because we have so much instant horsepower, it tends to break traction very easily, its only 4000 rpms right now, but we think we need around 3500 rpms or lower. jeffi also got a chance to drive the new 05 rx-1 in the snow before the season ended. the ride was awesome, the weight transfer was excellent, you could feel that the sled was alot lighter, and it pulled like a freight train. a turbo'd 05 rx-1 is going to be tough to beat on the snow.
Freddie Klies "ECP FILTERS" ran Similar times last year at Mike hills event. He to said he was running a MC Express on low boost. He must have been telling the truth. So I guess all front mount turbos can run these times in that 190 hp range.
I talked to Mike Hyman he told me his sled weight in the 630 range. The Lightning Pro weights about 30 less in trail form Trail skid and trail track with 214 studs. With the Whal and 10 1.2 inch track we'd be under 600 pounds. I wonder what we'd run for times??
Turbos are here to stay.
Again Jeff congrats on building a kick #*$&@ product!!!!
I talked to Mike Hyman he told me his sled weight in the 630 range. The Lightning Pro weights about 30 less in trail form Trail skid and trail track with 214 studs. With the Whal and 10 1.2 inch track we'd be under 600 pounds. I wonder what we'd run for times??
Turbos are here to stay.
Again Jeff congrats on building a kick #*$&@ product!!!!
jason, thanks for the props, i'm sure alot of prospective buyers are wondering what kind of times you would run as well.... but i would have to let the other turbo kits results speak for themselves, because i haven't heard of anyone running close to the mid 9's times the cpr turbos are, and i don't know if i would group all the front mount turbos into one class, there is more that goes into designing a turbo kit than just its location.....also, i don't think many of the turbos kits out there have had nearly as much dyno development time as the cpr turbo kit has. ( hundreds of hours worth, i would have gone broke on dyno time alone if i didn't own my own dyno. lol) the only thing i know for sure, is simons cpr turbo is running mid 9's right now, in quite trail form on pump gas and so are the customers who have bought them. jeff
and so are the customers who have bought them. jeff
SIMONS CPR: Jeff the proof is in the pudding and what you did on the track in 9.5 seconds speaks loader then your dyno.
testing and tuning in the field is were it's at in my book. You can run it on the dyno for ever but until it hit the snow or in this case the ash fault you just don't know. I put 1500 trail miles on my sled and it ran flaulessly after I worked the bugs out. I will tell you this, I could have never learned as much about our kit as I did If all I did was run it on a dyno. To each his own and congrats again.
testing and tuning in the field is were it's at in my book. You can run it on the dyno for ever but until it hit the snow or in this case the ash fault you just don't know. I put 1500 trail miles on my sled and it ran flaulessly after I worked the bugs out. I will tell you this, I could have never learned as much about our kit as I did If all I did was run it on a dyno. To each his own and congrats again.
jtssrx, field testing is the final result, it proves everything...but those results of how my turbo runs in the field started long before i was ever ready to drive the turbo for the first time....when i talk of running the turbo on a dyno, i am not running it just to see how much power it has, this is testing the design of the turbo kit itself. when your designing and matching the turbo for your kit, there are certain things you have to be looking at, and be constantly analizing..... airflow, fuel flow, air/fuel ratios, corrected gas turbine flow, pressure ratios on both sides, corrected air flows, pressure drop, temperatures,and total volumes on the compressor side, pressures and exhaust temps before and after the turbine side of the turbo, what triggers the increase in fuel delivery, and how it stays adjusted throughout the entire powercurve....just to name afew things, these things can only be analized on a dyno, and are the ONLY reasons my turbo kit performs like it does. i'm not saying a guy with many years of experience can't do it without a engine dyno, but.... i would rather rely on science than luck. jeff
