Track Decoupler/coupler?

[SidewinderConvert]

Check this out. Pretty slick!
http://www.skinzprotectivegear.com/snowmobileproductad/arc.html

That looks impressive, however at $1000 for the cheap one it better be. Unfortunately (fortunately for my wallet?) it doesn't look like there is any way to adapt their mechanism to a track shorter than 153. They are relying on the extra rail behind the rear shock.

I may have used the wrong wording to explain my beliefs in this matter
I am under the impression that coupling is the connection of the front shock to the back shock , so the back shock can react in unison with the front shock .
On a non coupled suspension the 2 shocks don't "communicate " .
On a non coupled suspension there is no pivot shaft and stopper as the 2 shocks don't "talk", so the shaft and blocks are not needed .
The pivot shaft with stoppers determine when the talking starts , not if.
Does anybody agree with me ?

To the best of my understanding that is correct.

 

[4strokes]

Check this out. Pretty slick!
http://www.skinzprotectivegear.com/snowmobileproductad/arc.html

for 1500, I will follow you around all winter and adjust it for you

 

[kinger]

My BTX is uncoupled and only ridden on the trail, in the limited time I got on it the past two years I don't see a need to couple, and I don't mess around in the twisties. I steer with the brakes now. Its super fun to air out the skis over a knoll or dip and instant throttle.

 

[SidewinderConvert]

My BTX is uncoupled and only ridden on the trail, in the limited time I got on it the past two years I don't see a need to couple, and I don't mess around in the twisties. I steer with the brakes now. Its super fun to air out the skis over a knoll or dip and instant throttle.

Maybe I am just over-correcting based on my experience with 2006 suspension tech but on my old Poos as soon as the skis were in the air you had no control at all. The sled would just go where it wanted sometimes not even in a straight line. Hence my desire to have the winder able to keep the front end down on the trail.

 

[4strokes]

Check this out. Pretty slick!
http://www.skinzprotectivegear.com/snowmobileproductad/arc.html

for 1500, I will follow you around all winter and adjust it for you

That looks impressive, however at $1000 for the cheap one it better be. Unfortunately (fortunately for my wallet?) it doesn't look like there is any way to adapt their mechanism to a track shorter than 153. They are relying on the extra rail behind the rear shock.



To the best of my understanding that is correct.

I have never heard them talking, but when the rear couples the front in, it nearly doubles the rate of the springs

Maybe I am just over-correcting based on my experience with 2006 suspension tech but on my old Poos as soon as the skis were in the air you had no control at all. The sled would just go where it wanted sometimes not even in a straight line. Hence my desire to have the winder able to keep the front end down on the trail.

I find that my nytro xtx goes straight as an arrow with the skis up. I am pretty used to it, I have it uncoupled with a star kit and set very soft. easily over come any terrain, brooks etc. point, pin and hang on. I find that short tracks don't do this nearly as well and can be unpredictable when hitting ice ridges at speed and what not

 

[kinger]

Only way to see is to remove it and try it. There is a lot of weight on sidewinder nose. More then a Apex in my weight comparisons. A little brake to change the momentum quickly gets the skis on the ground. Each ski has over 175lbs on it, very different then a 2 smoke. Never had a issue with push even with a 153", no short track 2 smoke could hang with me. Not even close.

 

[SidewinderConvert]

I know for a fact I will have a bunch of time finding the balance on the winder. Probably will try it with the transfer blocks in/out and at various settings just to find the sweet spot. Should probably figure out a way to weight the winder like you have, just need to find scales I don't care about putting studs/carbides on.

I find that my nytro xtx goes straight as an arrow with the skis up. I am pretty used to it, I have it uncoupled with a star kit and set very soft. easily over come any terrain, brooks etc. point, pin and hang on. I find that short tracks don't do this nearly as well and can be unpredictable when hitting ice ridges at speed and what not

What I noticed was that the 121 short tracks would lift the inside first coming out of a corner and depending on how the second ski lifted off it would either go straight or end up turning. I tried balancing etc but the machine just never seemed to be predictable enough for me. That might be the track slipping or just the sled never leveling out and running on a tilt. It was more comfortable to just set it up to keep the front end down and sacrifice the launch ability (also bottomed out less).