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What are the best shocks for winder?


https://zbrozracing.com/snowmobile-47/yamaha/sr-viper

Nice shocks!
But still double the price for the compression/rebound adjustable X2’s
Also a 5/8” shaft.

The nice thing about the Fox Shocks is rebuilding them is not gonna cost you an arm and a leg either.

So what are the advantages of the X2’s over the Fox I listed?
 
ClutchMaster said:
https://zbrozracing.com/snowmobile-47/yamaha/sr-viper

Nice shocks!
But still double the price for the compression/rebound adjustable X2’s
Also a 5/8” shaft.

The nice thing about the Fox Shocks is rebuilding them is not gonna cost you an arm and a leg either.

So what are the advantages of the X2’s over the Fox I listed?
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So the FOX RC2 in this link:
http://www.carverperformance.com/product.php?productid=17908&cat=&page=1

Are $800 for the pair vs virtually every other one is $1500+. The others are coil over vs the RC2 is a air shock. Looks like the RC2 retail at $1700 so maybe Carver is a price error?

Assuming they were all the same price the Exit seem to make more sense with triple rate springs and easy rebound adjuster knob.

I don't know anything though it just sounds good to me LOL.

When you say 5/8" shaft your comparing that to what?

Thanks for help!
 
kinger said:
So the FOX RC2 in this link:
http://www.carverperformance.com/product.php?productid=17908&cat=&page=1

Are $800 for the pair vs virtually every other one is $1500+. The others are coil over vs the RC2 is a air shock. Looks like the RC2 retail at $1700 so maybe Carver is a price error?

Assuming they were all the same price the Exit seem to make more sense with triple rate springs and easy rebound adjuster knob.

I don't know anything though it just sounds good to me LOL.

When you say 5/8" shaft your comparing that to what?

Thanks for help!
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1/2. Those from Carver are what I run. With hi/lo. Love them but many people don’t like all the adjustments.
 
I bought the QS3R front shocks for my Sidewinder LTX DX, and it was like getting a new sled. The difference in ride and handling amazed me on my first ride. I thought about the more expensive shocks with more adjustments, but in the end, I realized that having 3 choices which were readily visible when I looked at the shock made more sense for me. Each setting provides a distinctly different ride, and feel. I make a 1-2 minute stop on the side of the trail, and my sled is adjusted for the conditions. 20+ settings would be more precise, but I am "simple minded" and very happy with 3!
 
I am sold to ELKA. I know Cannondale doesn't like them for some valuable reason, that happened in the past:-/ Everyone who try my sled are amazed how good it ride:flag:

Stage5 front ; -dual rate spring(no needs of triple rate, this has been tested a lot)
-50 click rebond
-16click high speed
-25click lowspeed
Center stage 5 HIGH FLOW valving . Dual rate spring, a lot better than single rate (again tested a lot, more confortable in small bumps and less inside ski lift. A little less transfert whit dual rate at center)
- 40 click rebond
-11high speed
-17 lowspeed

The one behind; stage5 valving a little more restrictive
Rebond-flat screw whit 6 turn
-16 click highspeed
-25 click lowspeed
 
I have QS3 shocks on my sled except for the center shock is the cheap hpg shock. What is a good center shock that will work with the qs3 shock package I have?
 
Byam said:
I am sold to ELKA. I know Cannondale doesn't like them for some valuable reason, that happened in the past:-/ Everyone who try my sled are amazed how good it ride:flag:

Stage5 front ; -dual rate spring(no needs of triple rate, this has been tested a lot)
-50 click rebond
-16click high speed
-25click lowspeed
Center stage 5 HIGH FLOW valving . Dual rate spring, a lot better than single rate (again tested a lot, more confortable in small bumps and less inside ski lift. A little less transfert whit dual rate at center)
- 40 click rebond
-11high speed
-17 lowspeed

The one behind; stage5 valving a little more restrictive
Rebond-flat screw whit 6 turn
-16 click highspeed
-25 click lowspeed
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Dude your cheating Elka’s Have been the baddest a$$ shocks on the planet forever.
High & Low speed adjustments on both compression and rebound is the Shiznit!
How much $$$ are they Big Baller?
 
1nc 2000 said:
I have QS3 shocks on my sled except for the center shock is the cheap hpg shock. What is a good center shock that will work with the qs3 shock package I have?
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https://m.facebook.com/carverperformance/photos/a.10151460464596159/10155083596526159/?type=3

This is a nice center shock with only compression dampening adjustment, no rebound adjustment. This is the same shock as the QS3 except it has 22 compression settings instead of three. I’m pretty sure it fits a Winder but you should ask when you call.
 
I wish I could figure out how to set my shocks up. I only have the Elka rear shocks. They are better than stock, but with so many adjustments it is hard. If I set them for stutters it bottoms out if I set for bigger bumps stutters bounce my feat. I have been going from Medium on both sides for rear spring to Medium on one side and Hard on the other when the bumps get bigger. That about the best I can get it. I am wondering if I can add the dual rate springs from Hygear to my Elka. I loved it on my Ohlins Apex. Yeah I am 300 without gear and 6'5"
 
race24x said:
I wish I could figure out how to set my shocks up. I only have the Elka rear shocks. They are better than stock, but with so many adjustments it is hard. If I set them for stutters it bottoms out if I set for bigger bumps stutters bounce my feat. I have been going from Medium on both sides for rear spring to Medium on one side and Hard on the other when the bumps get bigger. That about the best I can get it. I am wondering if I can add the dual rate springs from Hygear to my Elka. I loved it on my Ohlins Apex. Yeah I am 300 without gear and 6'5"
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It’s always a give and take situation, there will always be some compromise with that situation. I don’t have a lot of experience with the high/low speed adjustments because I never had the $$$$ for those big dollar shocks.
Testing is obviously key here. This is what I’ve been told... for initial setup set the low speed compression dampening as low as it will go. Set the high speed compression dampening somewhere in the middle and run it in the larger bumps. Adjust high speed from there until it’s bottoming out slightly. Then go back and turn up the low speed a little at a time until it stops bottoming out. That’s supposed to get you close for a good all around setup.
If you really want the best setup you will have to tweak the high speed now and then for current trail conditions. No big stuff.....just stutters then turn the high speed down some.

As for the rebound your looking for the fastest you can allow the suspension to “fall out” without feeling bouncy. You generally want to set this setting in only medium moguls then leave it.
If you have to much rebound dampening then the suspension will “pack up” and won’t drop down fast enough for the next bump. I turn my rebound way down until the sled feels bouncy in the medium stuff, then bring it back out a couple clicks.
I would probably start by turning down the low speed rebound all the way and adjust the high speed down until it’s slightly bouncy in medium moguls. Then bring up the low speed rebound until the bouncing stops.
Again optimum would be to adjust for current trail conditions but this should get you close for a good all around setup.
Any spring adjustments will usually require resetting your dampening so try and get the springs close to where you want ahead of time.

NOTE don’t jack your springs up super high, this isn’t good for ride quality like many believe. You need proper suspension sag for any long travel suspension to work properly. It might look cool but it will ride like garbage!
It also makes for a tippy sled.

PS..... you might have to go back and set the compression dampening again after setting the rebound if it was way off.
 
I didnt try the low speed compression to help adjust the ride quality. I thought low speed was for just long slow bumps. I like it for transfer. It allows the suspension to come up in a wheelie when you punch it LOL. I know I am heavy just looking to dial it in. The springs are very heavy. I need to either go with Medium Medium and go harder with shocks or Medium Heavy and go softer with shocks. I feel like when I check the rebound compared to my friends good handling QS3r's on his Viper his rebound was slower than mine, so I went a few clicks to get it similar. I think it is going to take just more messing with it
 
race24x said:
I didnt try the low speed compression to help adjust the ride quality. I thought low speed was for just long slow bumps. I like it for transfer. It allows the suspension to come up in a wheelie when you punch it LOL. I know I am heavy just looking to dial it in. The springs are very heavy. I need to either go with Medium Medium and go harder with shocks or Medium Heavy and go softer with shocks. I feel like when I check the rebound compared to my friends good handling QS3r's on his Viper his rebound was slower than mine, so I went a few clicks to get it similar. I think it is going to take just more messing with it
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Yea low speed is definitely for transfer and slow rollers. If it’s too low you’ll notice it when riding slower through medium moguls.
You’ll get it you just need to play with the settings. Most important settings are definitely the high speed ones.
 
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