stoutner
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Srxspec said:
Hmmm,
I wish you would have made the offer earlier. I would have found a 130 lb driver, paid to have the sled delivered and returned by truck
It probably could be trucked for about $300 each way.Maybe coulda threw the 100 shot of N2O on top of the turbo and went for it in the power adder class.
By the way, if you are coming from Winnipeg to Syracuse, NY you almost have to drive through Menno, SD. ...well, it's not too far out of the way.
Allen, any idea what you think that sled might run?
By the way, any of you guys traveling long distances to ESTA are welcome to stay at my house if you like. I have a couple of spare bedrooms and my girlfriend is a pretty good cook. I live about 45 minutes west of ESTA.
stoutner said:
Stoutner, I’m not heading out to Syracuse, NY, just heading down to the Black Hills and figured I’d detour through Menno, SD. I had mentioned this to Allen a while back that I may bring my turbo to run down there, could be interesting. The girlfriend wasn’t too keen when I mentioned running a race during our holidays, but then Menno, SD is quite a way for me to go for just a weekend and I wouldn’t mind trying out a different track. Just wished I could use those points for the Super Summit Series but they told me I have to run my home track for those.
If ESTA was closer to where I live or if I had all kinds of time and money, I’d be there in a flash
stoutner
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
Winnipeg to Syracuse.... 1500 miles
End at Winnipeg, MB CA Map
Total Est. Time: 24 hours, 20 minutes Total Est. Distance: 1544.77 miles
End at Winnipeg, MB CA Map
Total Est. Time: 24 hours, 20 minutes Total Est. Distance: 1544.77 miles
Any of you guy's going to NYIRP on friday for some test and tune because I think we will be doing that and then going to ESTA. Any idea how far it is from one track to the other?
monker
TY 4 Stroke Guru
stone88 said:
That was my original plan, but it probably won't happen. It's 2 hours (maybe a little more) from one to the other.
stoutner
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
Hey Stone,
I don't think I'll be testing either on Friday night. My buddy might bring his street car down. If he does, I might go with him but wont be bringing my sled. NYIRP is only about 35 minutes out of your way. Just like Corey said, it is about 2 hours from one track to the other....give or take a few minutes.
If you go, let me know.
Wayne Stoutner
I don't think I'll be testing either on Friday night. My buddy might bring his street car down. If he does, I might go with him but wont be bringing my sled. NYIRP is only about 35 minutes out of your way. Just like Corey said, it is about 2 hours from one track to the other....give or take a few minutes.
If you go, let me know.
Wayne Stoutner
Heading out this weekend for a points make up day and regular points day. Thanks to Jim of BPE I've finally got my clutch center to center adjusted. I have a suspicion that it’s been out since I had the turbo installed a few years ago, but then it could have been out from the factory too. Anyway I couldn’t find any real clear instructions on how to do it, but once you get it done, it’s not that difficult, you just need the tools. So we’ll see if it made any difference this weekend as that’s the only change I’ve made. Jim and Bob may have their turbo’d RX1 ready for the track this weekend too, so it should be fun!!!!!!!!
hlmrx1 said:
Oh good, you got it done. Not that hard, is it? Bob called me yesterday afternoon to let me know that the 10T drivers he was pressing on are NFG. I'm off to Greenbush, MN this aft. to pick up a set from Dave. We have the rest of the skid parts in Wpg. now, so tonight is all assembly. I finished most of the rad last night ,and flushed the coolant out. The quick adjust front limiter is looking good, hopefully it works the way we think it will.
At the risk of jinxing ourselves, I'm pretty sure we'll have it buttoned up and in the trailer tonight. Should see you at the track in the a.m. Don. If you get there first, save us a spot.
Well got out on the weekend and had 2 points days, one was a makeup for the May long weekend that we missed due to weather. Bob and Jim Manning of BPE made it out on Sunday and bailed me out with a couple of problems by giving me some parts that I didn’t have with me, nuts, bolts, clamps, advice, etc. Thanks guys. I’ll let them tell their part of the story.
Overall it was a pretty good weekend, making it to 3rd round on Saturday losing to reaction time and to being off with my dial time running almost 1/10th over. A day of solid 9’s with a slight wind in our favour.
On Sunday I started the day off by adjusting my waste gate as it was about 1lb. of boost under where I wanted to be both on low and high boost. At that time I noticed the actuator had a broken weld and was moving off the bracket, so we clamped that and finished the adjustments and went out for a time trial. That’s where I ran my only 10 second pass with the right hand ski coming off the ground big time and the left pretty much staying put at the launch. After checking things out when I got back, I found that all the rivets on the back left hand skid mount bracket had sheared off. I had been noticing the thing pulling to the right and transferring pretty hard on previous runs. So, after a few more holes and some bolts courtesy of BPE I had the thing back in action. Made a few passes with one hitting a 9.7039 on high boost, slightly better than the day before. Then on the first round my opponent red lighted and I put the hammer down and lite the board with a 9.6228 @ 132.74mph, my best ever, and that’s with no help from a tail wind. Round 2 was another good fast run with a 9.6449 @ 131.94 but ended up losing again to reaction and this time breaking out trying to catch him. Pretty hard to beat a .5021 reaction time and running right on the dial, 12.5540 on a 12.55. Close race though, and tough competition. Next weekend we may be out in Ulmer’s neck of the woods, stay tuned.
Overall it was a pretty good weekend, making it to 3rd round on Saturday losing to reaction time and to being off with my dial time running almost 1/10th over. A day of solid 9’s with a slight wind in our favour.
On Sunday I started the day off by adjusting my waste gate as it was about 1lb. of boost under where I wanted to be both on low and high boost. At that time I noticed the actuator had a broken weld and was moving off the bracket, so we clamped that and finished the adjustments and went out for a time trial. That’s where I ran my only 10 second pass with the right hand ski coming off the ground big time and the left pretty much staying put at the launch. After checking things out when I got back, I found that all the rivets on the back left hand skid mount bracket had sheared off. I had been noticing the thing pulling to the right and transferring pretty hard on previous runs. So, after a few more holes and some bolts courtesy of BPE I had the thing back in action. Made a few passes with one hitting a 9.7039 on high boost, slightly better than the day before. Then on the first round my opponent red lighted and I put the hammer down and lite the board with a 9.6228 @ 132.74mph, my best ever, and that’s with no help from a tail wind. Round 2 was another good fast run with a 9.6449 @ 131.94 but ended up losing again to reaction and this time breaking out trying to catch him. Pretty hard to beat a .5021 reaction time and running right on the dial, 12.5540 on a 12.55. Close race though, and tough competition. Next weekend we may be out in Ulmer’s neck of the woods, stay tuned.
Well, where to start. We worked until about 1am Friday getting the sled set up then shut it down for the night. We weren't happy with how the skid was sitting in the chassis and decided to spend some more time on it Sat. before heading out. Sat. afternoon we had a set-up that was at least worth trying, so the trailer left for the track later in the afternoon.
Sunday morning we got in line and did a few passes. 60' was horrible, and the motor was down about 5-6lbs on boost. Had a similar problem early in the winter that turned out to be a split in the charge tube under the tunnel. Ran it a few more passes with deteriorating results - ET, MPH and 60' all going the wrong way. Ripped into it a bit at intermission and found a failed clamp where the exhaust meets the turbo (same effect as a cracked header for the front mount guys). Rigged up a fix as best we could in the 45 minutes we had, and it was a little better, but still down about 4 lbs. Had no idea what to put up for a dial in the first round, as we didn't know if the repair was going to hold. We were around 10.2-10.4 with the leak. Decided to play it safe and went with a 10.2 thinking that we could peddle it if the thing actually made power. First round it made a little more boost and Bob got off it early as he had the gap covered by 1/2 track, but still ended up breaking out. I think that pass was a 9.99 @ 135 but don't remeber for sure (Don?).
Anyway, went in the test lane for a few more pulls and it was apparent that the sled wasn't right. Last pass of the day something let go and we dumped coolant out at about the 60'. we'll tear into it this week and see what's up.
On the plus side, the rad worked awesome!
Sunday morning we got in line and did a few passes. 60' was horrible, and the motor was down about 5-6lbs on boost. Had a similar problem early in the winter that turned out to be a split in the charge tube under the tunnel. Ran it a few more passes with deteriorating results - ET, MPH and 60' all going the wrong way. Ripped into it a bit at intermission and found a failed clamp where the exhaust meets the turbo (same effect as a cracked header for the front mount guys). Rigged up a fix as best we could in the 45 minutes we had, and it was a little better, but still down about 4 lbs. Had no idea what to put up for a dial in the first round, as we didn't know if the repair was going to hold. We were around 10.2-10.4 with the leak. Decided to play it safe and went with a 10.2 thinking that we could peddle it if the thing actually made power. First round it made a little more boost and Bob got off it early as he had the gap covered by 1/2 track, but still ended up breaking out. I think that pass was a 9.99 @ 135 but don't remeber for sure (Don?).
Anyway, went in the test lane for a few more pulls and it was apparent that the sled wasn't right. Last pass of the day something let go and we dumped coolant out at about the 60'. we'll tear into it this week and see what's up.
On the plus side, the rad worked awesome!
Yep Jim it was a 9.99 @ 135mph or so. Dumped coolant, ahhhhhh, were they cleaning up for a while? Let us know what's going on with the motor.
stoutner
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
Those turbos seem to be pretty hard to get just right. At the shootout, the turbo guys really seemed inconsistant....but, they were mostly racing heads up so it didn't matter.
For now, i'll stick with the N2O
For now, i'll stick with the N2O
stoutner said:Those turbos seem to be pretty hard to get just right. At the shootout, the turbo guys really seemed inconsistant....but, they were mostly racing heads up so it didn't matter.
For now, i'll stick with the N2O
The biggest problem is the more the horsepower the more inconsistent the hook up is, especially is the track isn't prepped consistently either. You’ll find similar problems with NOS.
stoutner
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Also with the turbo you add a lot more parts and and more moving parts into and engine compartment that is already stuffed to the max.
On the other hand, you don't have to spend $4 or $5 for nitrous every run
On the other hand, you don't have to spend $4 or $5 for nitrous every run
I think the turbo sleds can be very consistant in the right hands. I've been out to the track quite a few times with Don, and he is very methodical about his setup and changes. He might do one or two suspension or clutch changes in the early part of the day, but by about noon, the set-up is the set-up, and that is how it runs for the day. You wouldn't want to use us as a reference point for racing turbos on the asphalt just yet - we took a sled that is very fast on top end (in the winter) and and put a best guess setup in it for our first trip out. We spent all of our time getting it converted over to run on tar, and didn't give the obvious things much attention before we went to the track. Don, on the other hand, runs every two weeks, and has been for a few years now. I don't remember the last time (if ever) that his week-end was cut short from a mechanical failure. He is down into the low 9.6's now, and still has lots left in his sled. He is only running about 10,200 rpm on the big end, and most of the time runs on low boost because he is more consistant that way. I think with some clutching and suspension tweaks, he should see low 9's before the end of the year.
