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Understood Mike, and I agree. It just looked that way in the video is why I asked.Bracket racing. Well, it’s not racing really. You don’t even need to be fast at all. What’s the point?
It’s more of a ride than a race. LOL! Never understood why anyone would be interested myself.
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Got more pics of the front and rear suspensions setups? Interested to see how many wheels you end up adding and how you tie down the front (if it's using stock components).
Will do Snowman!
Pretty neat video. It would be really cool if you could get a video of the clutches, synchronized with a video of the speed/rpm. Then you could really see how the clutches are shifting relative to the speed and rpm.
Turtle, I have some clutching videos on my YouTube (search Terry Burmeister) of how clutching works and the abuse on belts. Definitely will be doing some more videos of clutching soon!
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Reeled him in he quit at 660 you went 1/4 mile he was way ahead! I hate skidoo’s but
This was only a 660ft. (1/8th mile) bracket drag race.
Isnt this bracket racing?
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Bracket racing. Well, it’s not racing really. You don’t even need to be fast at all. What’s the point?
It’s more of a ride than a race. LOL! Never understood why anyone would be interested myself.
The point is anyone can see a group of three amber bulbs blink and hit the throttle, go as fast as you can and beat the component with huge horsepower. But it's the one who races the most, has the most experience on the track, the most money invested.....and the ability to cheat. YES, I said cheat.
I've raced ice (Won my classes at the World Series), raced snow and grass (6 time points champion of Wisconsin) and to me, bracket racing is far more challenging because you can get beat by a slower sled. Being consistent is the key to bracket racing and anyone can do it. This is why bracket racing is coming back full force and ice and grass are going down in numbers, especially when the other racers know that before they even show up to a race, there are certain sleds that will be there that they know they can't compete against because they say, "why go, I am only going to get my #*$&@ handed to me". Bracket racing takes out all the cheating, doesn't matter what you run, could be a stock 440 to like my Sidewinder I run.
Asphalt racing is not as easy as you may think. You can't predict any surface... especially asphalt. (Too warm, too cold, not enough track bite, too much track bite, wind, temp and even if the guy in front of me put fluid down....etc.)
Before you ask... I've raced ice, grass, snow and asphalt racing is by far the most challenging.
Take bracket racing (see if you can handle all this)... as you know, you need to have the sled cooled down, that's the easiest part. Now take the wind, the track temp, the air temp and your last time runs then figure out what you're going to put for a dial- in. You put your dial- in on your sled, now you get put in a lane, right or left. Check your dial- in to make sure it's correct. Now you do your burnout... was it enough? Are you going to get enough traction or spin? You line up just right in the beams. You have limited time to do this... not minutes like grass or ice. Plus, you get off your sled to re-position it like they do on grass or ice and they will probably DQ you or let the other guy go with the win as they won't let you "burn"the other guy down. Question you ask yourself, are you going first? They going first? Lights come down in sequence and you have to time yourself (not blink and go, it's timed). You take off, if it's green was it good enough reaction time to catch the other guy/girl? All this goes thru your head as you leave the starting line. Now you catch the guy/girl and ask, are you going to break out? Not going to break out? What if you aren't catching the other guy? Did you snooze on reaction time? Is he going to break out? Do you lift? Do you keep on it? And even if you get the win light, you are already thinking about next round, checking air temp and density, wondering what you can do to be more consistent.
Anybody that says it is easy, come on out to a bracket race and we would love to see the smile go away when a girl kicks your butt.
There are no breakdowns to class CC's, an 8 second sled will race a 12 second sled if they get paired up that way. You want to run an 8 second sled there? Go for it! You want to run your stock sled so you get a full year of use instead of just winter time? Do it! It's fun without all the rules like ice and grass has. The key is to be consistent, reaction time is important and to know your sled with all the changes to track and temp.
Lot more to it than just stabbing throttle and going as fast as you can.
Well said and you still get a time slip for the pricks like Knappattack that would actually diss ANYONE who gets out in public and puts it on the line. Wow.The point is anyone can see a group of three amber bulbs blink and hit the throttle, go as fast as you can and beat the component with huge horsepower. But it's the one who races the most, has the most experience on the track, the most money invested.....and the ability to cheat. YES, I said cheat.
I've raced ice (Won my classes at the World Series), raced snow and grass (6 time points champion of Wisconsin) and to me, bracket racing is far more challenging because you can get beat by a slower sled. Being consistent is the key to bracket racing and anyone can do it. This is why bracket racing is coming back full force and ice and grass are going down in numbers, especially when the other racers know that before they even show up to a race, there are certain sleds that will be there that they know they can't compete against because they say, "why go, I am only going to get my #*$&@ handed to me". Bracket racing takes out all the cheating, doesn't matter what you run, could be a stock 440 to like my Sidewinder I run.
Asphalt racing is not as easy as you may think. You can't predict any surface... especially asphalt. (Too warm, too cold, not enough track bite, too much track bite, wind, temp and even if the guy in front of me put fluid down....etc.)
Before you ask... I've raced ice, grass, snow and asphalt racing is by far the most challenging.
Take bracket racing (see if you can handle all this)... as you know, you need to have the sled cooled down, that's the easiest part. Now take the wind, the track temp, the air temp and your last time runs then figure out what you're going to put for a dial- in. You put your dial- in on your sled, now you get put in a lane, right or left. Check your dial- in to make sure it's correct. Now you do your burnout... was it enough? Are you going to get enough traction or spin? You line up just right in the beams. You have limited time to do this... not minutes like grass or ice. Plus, you get off your sled to re-position it like they do on grass or ice and they will probably DQ you or let the other guy go with the win as they won't let you "burn"the other guy down. Question you ask yourself, are you going first? They going first? Lights come down in sequence and you have to time yourself (not blink and go, it's timed). You take off, if it's green was it good enough reaction time to catch the other guy/girl? All this goes thru your head as you leave the starting line. Now you catch the guy/girl and ask, are you going to break out? Not going to break out? What if you aren't catching the other guy? Did you snooze on reaction time? Is he going to break out? Do you lift? Do you keep on it? And even if you get the win light, you are already thinking about next round, checking air temp and density, wondering what you can do to be more consistent.
Anybody that says it is easy, come on out to a bracket race and we would love to see the smile go away when a girl kicks your butt.
There are no breakdowns to class CC's, an 8 second sled will race a 12 second sled if they get paired up that way. You want to run an 8 second sled there? Go for it! You want to run your stock sled so you get a full year of use instead of just winter time? Do it! It's fun without all the rules like ice and grass has. The key is to be consistent, reaction time is important and to know your sled with all the changes to track and temp.
Lot more to it than just stabbing throttle and going as fast as you can.
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Well said and you still get a time slip for the pricks like Knappattack that would actually diss ANYONE who gets out in public and puts it on the line. Wow.
Just because someone doesnt like the type of racing is no reason for personal attacks even if your a moderator. Just saying...
And what he wrote is not a personal attack? I am just pointing out how it looked to me and I would think others.Just because someone doesnt like the type of racing is no reason for personal attacks even if your a moderator. Just saying...
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Well put, I was involved for years with the old MSDRA, and the amount of time to police people who wanted to cheat was ridiculous. Braket racing is still racing and give everybody a fair chance.
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I have to agree with knapp i never understood bracket racing. Never made any sense to me. Not really racing.
Well I bet there are many who think any type of Drag Racing isnt racing since your not banging bars and catching air. Doesnt mean you need to go out of your way to try and put someone down for doing it. Cripes even Golf is competition!I have to agree with knapp i never understood bracket racing. Never made any sense to me. Not really racing.
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