Seat Time-Belt feedback after alignment with Hurricane Tool

[Fleecer]

Haha .... I should have filmed the look on Steveo's face. I recognized his sled parked outside from forum pics, so I walked in and said, "Hey, who has OCD in here?" Steveo looked around for a second and stuttered, "I do!" I held out my hand and said, "Hey, I'm Fleecer, nice to meet you!" He was kind enough to let me ride with he and his friends, what a nice guy!! I had a blast rest if the day!!

Back on topic....before meeting Steveo I did some testing on Washburn rr bed. My "jerry rigged home made clutch airchute" is doing what it is supposed to. After 3 long pulls of about 3/4 of mile at 300hp and outside temp of 32f, I could feel a little heat on my left foot. Hence the air coming in was blowing on the clutches and exiting the left footwell.....awesome! Clutch temps were hot, but I could keep my hand on primary without issue.

I've got about 800 miles on this belt now, which is a guiness book world record for me.

Is the Hurricane bar the end all cure all??? Nope, but definitely a step in the right direction imo!!

 

[Beerman]

800 miles on a single belt with that much HP is AWESOME! Bonus, you got to ride with my mentor.

 

[ClutchMaster]

None of that helped my 13 turbo cat,it still blew belts every 400 miles no matter how many vents or even a fan on it,pitiful cat,pitiful POS.

Well the 2013 cats had a compression spring in the secondary, not a torsional. I have fixed 7 cat belt blowers (2011~2014) and every single time the motor was not properly aligned. Most of the guys said they had checked alignment and it was good, I double checked only to find it was off. Parallel was off on every one. So that was my best guess with the winder. Some had offset and center to center issues too. I did shim the spiders on about half of them, but that wasn’t the issue. Some guys had crazy setups so we changed a few things. All get over 1200 miles a belt now, some have run 2000 miles! Only two of the sleds didn’t have tunes. Some of the guys did switch to the XS belt. I used the OSP alignment bar, great product!
Not having ever tuned a Winder secondary clutch has me in the dark, so all I can do is try and help. Right now everything is pointing to excessive offset and too much belt tension.

Stain reported that with a 38 helix and cat yellow the belt would pop right up to the top of the secondary when letting off the gas, not sure why a weaker spring would do this, it’s counter intuitive. It could help with the snapping issues.

Good luck guys!

 

[ClutchMaster]

This was the last one I did, it was out about a 1/16” front to back but the offset was fine.

 

[ClutchMaster]

I will say that StevewithOCD checked his parallel and It was perfect, even for him!
He must have “other” issues.

 

[Alsim]

Throw a mo flow vent in the panel . Helps a lot.

Yes probably help ..Good stuff and nice fitting !

 

[ROCKERDAN]

Agreed. I'm brutal with my Apex and it just runs smooth as silk.

Apex has 160hp or so though, alot diff. The winder stock at 204hp is mostly good on belts too.

Dan

 

[snowbeast]

Haha .... I should have filmed the look on Steveo's face. I recognized his sled parked outside from forum pics, so I walked in and said, "Hey, who has OCD in here?" Steveo looked around for a second and stuttered, "I do!" I held out my hand and said, "Hey, I'm Fleecer, nice to meet you!" He was kind enough to let me ride with him and his friends what a nice guy!! I had a blast rest if the day!!

Back on topic....before meeting Steveo I did some testing on Washburn rr bed. My "jerry rigged home made clutch airchute" is doing what it is supposed to. After 3 long pulls of about 3/4 of mile at 300hp and outside temp of 32f, I could feel a little heat on my left foot. Hence the air coming in was blowing on the clutches and exiting the left footwell.....awesome! Clutch temps were hot, but I could keep my hand on primary without issue.

I've got about 800 miles on this belt now, which is a guiness book world record for me.

Is the Hurricane bar the end all cure all??? Nope, but definitely a step in the right direction imo!!

So you guys were just up in the county yesterday? So where did you see steves sled,at the clubhouse,in washburn which is on the RR bed.

 

[stevewithOCD]

Had breakfast with WINTERWOLF aka: JD at the Lakeview. This was my second "play-date" with a TY friend in a row.
Then i chased him up & down the "beds" for half the day.
We both did basically the same clutch fixes & both our clutches were luke warm after some very very long pulls.
That's a VERY good sign!
Tomorrow i'm going to "Bang the Belt" a little harder.

P.S 1 "Bang the Belt" is my new term for getting aggressive & actually see if the belt can handle a lot of on off throttle corner to corner type of riding.
P.S 2 Some of the "long pulls" were 120 speedo at 9000 rpm's for miles at a time
P.S 3 I like TY guys. It's kinda like when dogs sniff each others' butt then wag their tail in delight because they "know" each other.
P.S 4 There was NO ACTUAL butt sniffing in the County this week

 

[stevewithOCD]

Winter wolf, Fleecer & I all used the Hurricane tool with positive results so far.
rnsr01 aka: Rick also used the tool, but was too scared to ride this week so we'll have to wait on his results.

 

[staggs65]

P.S 3 I like TY guys. It's kinda like when dogs sniff each others' butt then wag their tail in delight because they "know" each other.

Lmao, what happens in The County stays in The County

 

[Fleecer]

So you guys were just up in the county yesterday? So where did you see steves sled,at the clubhouse,in washburn which is on the RR bed.

Nope...Dean's in Portage.

 

[stevewithOCD]

Don't forget all 3 of us "county bed runners" are tuned so if our issues get even moderately better then we've already gained assuming a tuned sled HAS to be harder on a belt then a stock sled.
For those that don't know what i call the "beds", they are straightaway after straightaway after straightaway that get groomed almost daily.
They are great proving & un-proving grounds for clutching & belts. Even the hills are fast.

 

[rnusr01]

Had breakfast with WINTERWOLF aka: JD at the Lakeview. This was my second "play-date" with a TY friend in a row.
Then i chased him up & down the "beds" for half the day.
We both did basically the same clutch fixes & both our clutches were luke warm after some very very long pulls.
That's a VERY good sign!
Tomorrow i'm going to "Bang the Belt" a little harder.

P.S 1 "Bang the Belt" is my new term for getting aggressive & actually see if the belt can handle a lot of on off throttle corner to corner type of riding.
P.S 2 Some of the "long pulls" were 120 speedo at 9000 rpm's for miles at a time
P.S 3 I like TY guys. It's kinda like when dogs sniff each others' butt then wag their tail in delight because they "know" each other.
P.S 4 There was NO ACTUAL butt sniffing in the County this week

Not scared to ride, scared of you butt sniffers. LOL

 

[theewarrior]

Had breakfast with WINTERWOLF aka: JD at the Lakeview. This was my second "play-date" with a TY friend in a row.
Then i chased him up & down the "beds" for half the day.
We both did basically the same clutch fixes & both our clutches were luke warm after some very very long pulls.
That's a VERY good sign!
Tomorrow i'm going to "Bang the Belt" a little harder.

P.S 1 "Bang the Belt" is my new term for getting aggressive & actually see if the belt can handle a lot of on off throttle corner to corner type of riding.
P.S 2 Some of the "long pulls" were 120 speedo at 9000 rpm's for miles at a time
P.S 3 I like TY guys. It's kinda like when dogs sniff each others' butt then wag their tail in delight because they "know" each other.
P.S 4 There was NO ACTUAL butt sniffing in the County this week

What was your clutch fixes?