jjmoneysauce
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And some Bravos
And some Enticers
The Bravos were perfect for kids. So simple, and inexpensive. The 120 doesn't cut it for anything beyond babies, and the 200 is not quite big enough. I know so many guys who rode them as kids.I have an 82’ bravo shorty and my 6 yr old buy & 4 yr old girl love it! Finally got the boy driving it by himself this year. I just put a hose clamp under the throttle so he can only go so fast. I’m definitely not paying $5k for a scoot
jaydaniels
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Yamaha has always used small 6004 bearings on the rear axle wheels from what I recall. That’s includes 98 srx and apex’s. Are the rear bearings in this procross chassis even smaller?Driveshaft bearing clutch side had no markings not even a part number, sure sign of a Chinese bearing. Cheap seals and were dry almost devoid of grease. They have issues with outside diameter tolerance and spin in the bearing housing. People who are using quality made bearings report they press fit much tighter with the SKF bearings. Mine didn’t spin so I just repacked with fresh grease and kept my fingers crossed.
Rear axle bearings are the same size as idler wheel bearings, no sled that I know of has ever used such small bearings for a rear axle. Also they are throw away wheels because you can’t relpace the bearings. Rear wheel failures are extremely common with the vipers/procross chassis.
The chaincase side jackshaft bearing is suspect also, they changed to a different bearing in 2017 because of failures.
sgauthier
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I agree that 200 is not big enough and the price is ridiculous for a new one. when my kids were at the age of 9 or so i bought a good used 98 formula S with electric start. couldn't find a good used Yamaha bravo or enticer. That sled worked and ran great for them until they were 15 years old and then moved up to my 01 SRX and the Vmax 700. My brother bought it for what i paid for it and his grand kids are now riding it. Great little 380 twin carb leaf blower, run forever with just simple preventative maintenance. that's all that is needed to fill the gap for younger riders.
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LOL.....It won't be team blue, but read between the lines, remember Yamaha is very patient, but here's a hint.... blue and yellow makes the colour green
You mean like; Blue = Yamaha and Yellow= Ski doo, wouldnt that be a YAMADOO...............Hmmmmmmmmmmm heard that somewhere before. LOL
Not sure how you see that coming but sure would be interesting.
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Let me give you a hint...... you have no clue what’s really going to happen, just like all the rest of us.LOL.....It won't be team blue, but read between the lines, remember Yamaha is very patient, but here's a hint.... blue and yellow makes the colour green
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Let me give you a hint...... you have no clue what’s really going to happen, just like all the rest of us.
Exactly but don't tell that to all the chicken littles that are screaming that the sky is falling and Yamaha is exiting the snowmobile division. Like you said, we all have no clue and everything mentioned in these posts are pure speculation based on how that individual is digesting the information they are reading/seeing.
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Yamaha has always used small 6004 bearings on the rear axle wheels from what I recall. That’s includes 98 srx and apex’s. Are the rear bearings in this procross chassis even smaller?
Well my 2000 SRX has a Cat skid, and my 2002 viper has an M10. They both have larger bearings on the rear axle.
The last Yamaha I did was an Apex and it also had larger bearings on the rear axle.
These new Vipers have a small bearing and hollow wheels, complete junk IMO.
20/80
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LOL..... See what happensLet me give you a hint...... you have no clue what’s really going to happen, just like all the rest of us.
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Just what we’re all talking about
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LOL..... See what happens
but if Yamaha sled division folds I might start!!!
Sound familiar?
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I was told 2020 is the year, in the meantime I'm picking up a used sidewinder and keeping my turbo viper, just in case the inevitable happens I'll be set for a while.
Grimm
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I was told that Yamaha's 50th anniversary sled was the year. Oh, that already happened
sk-rx1
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Does the decision not to update the 2019 Viper as Cat did with the 7000 fit this theory? The Cat gets the "next gen" body work and the new rear wheel setup replacing the tri hub. The Yamaha gets none of that. I'm sure there's more, not sure on the new handlebar controls. How did Yamaha get in a position of lots of unsold units? Maybe because they have not updated anything since 2016?
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cmon, they did the 50th anniversary COLORS!!! LMAODoes the decision not to update the 2019 Viper as Cat did with the 7000 fit this theory? The Cat gets the "next gen" body work and the new rear wheel setup replacing the tri hub. The Yamaha gets none of that. I'm sure there's more, not sure on the new handlebar controls. How did Yamaha get in a position of lots of unsold units? Maybe because they have not updated anything since 2016?
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