Have you guys heard this news about Arctic Cat?

[cannondale27]

I do miss real paint!

 

[20/80]

You miss read the post bro. We are talking about previous Jap built Yamaha snowmobiles.


You just ride slower?

That’s great you have had that experience, but you are viewing the issue from a limited perspective using only “your” experiences.

I am a mechanic in my spare time and wrench on a lot of sleds and vehicles. Yes anything mechanical will eventually break down, DUH really? Snowmobiles have always been high maintenance, always will be. Over the past 25 years I have seen a lot of machines and I can tell you, the quality has dropped.
Some examples are tiny little bearings in hollow junk boggie wheels, thinner aluminum tunnels, quality bearings replaced with cheap China bearings, poor untested designs that fail prematurely, poor craftsmanship/quality control.

It’s currently the world we live in, disposable everything. Manufacturers have figured out that building high quality, reliable machines puts you out of business and costs more money. Make it look shiny and cool, forget about reliable.

Example; I just went through an M10 suspension, every wheel was in excellent shape, only one bearing was needing replacement. The upper shafts are solid 1.25” aluminum and showed very little wear, 14K miles on the original wheels!!

My Viper has absolute garbage wheels on the entire skid. The bearings in the rear axle wheels are smaller than idler wheels on the M10. Also I’ve broken 3 idler wheel mounts right off the skid, hollow garbage held on with tiny 5mm fasteners, the M10 uses 8mm bolts with a solid aluminum mount.
I’ve bent both the upper and lower cross shafts also. Many have broken the upper shaft and ripped a giant hole in the tunnel.

Anyone who says the reliability on the procross chassis is better than the DB simply has not worked on both extensively. Talk to some old school Yamaha mechanics, see what their answer is.
M2C

This sled has never had one issue, nothing has ever broken on it, just regular maintenance. Do $100 set of rings at 10k miles and your good to go to 20k. Gotta love those red heads!
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Oh yea I almost forgot, it has real paint!
Since when did colored plastic look better than paint?

Thank you clutchmaster… but some of these guy's are not going to be happy about the truth, that's a nice sled

 

[74Nitro]

Thread gone right off the rails. Now we are talking about red head triples for crying out loud.

 

[1nc 2000]

After all it's a Yamaha forum and we're talking about Artic Cats. So it's like guys with tuning forks poking a bunch of cats!

 

[STAIN]

Thank you clutchmaster… but some of these guy's are not going to be happy about the truth, that's a nice sled

Yup, a Yamaha engine with a non Yamaha suspension. Sound familiar?

 

[cannondale27]

For all we know Yamaha is a owner of Cat. Maybe on a type of rent to own agreement. Who knows. Especially today lets just be Thankful for what we have.

 

[74Nitro]

Yup, a Yamaha engine with a non Yamaha suspension. Sound familiar?

LOL, good one Stain!

 

[TPAY243]

Clutchmaster now your telling guys there not riding hard enough that's why there rig is staying together(you must be some kinda racer guy that rides a lot harder than everyone else). Sounds like your really stressed out over some skid wheels and your answer is to install a $3500.00 rear suspension. I don't care what you say all snowmobiles are created the same and are just like a boat(break out another thousand)

 

[ClutchMaster]

Clutchmaster now your telling guys there not riding hard enough that's why there rig is staying together(you must be some kinda racer guy that rides a lot harder than everyone else). Sounds like your really stressed out over some skid wheels and your answer is to install a $3500.00 rear suspension. I don't care what you say all snowmobiles are created the same and are just like a boat(break out another thousand)

Lol it’s all good! Yami’s never rode very good in the bumps! Actually thats a used M10, I rebuilt the shocks on that skid for $35 bucks and the skid cost $375 at Haydays.
My 2000 SRX has a 2002 ZR skid under it, my mountain sled has a Cat 162 skid and all my older Yami 2 smokes have Fox shocks (Cat) up front. They are simply cheap and easy to rebuild and search on eBay will get you almost any body/shaft length you need. I have a valving kit and all the o-rings, so Fox just makes sense. So I’ve been riding YamaCats before the term was even “coined”.
I love my SR Viper for UP riding, I just wish the old Yamaha reliability was built into these chassis! Thanks to people like RockerDan, Knapp, Hibsman, Cdale and many others, we have been able to identify the issues and address them.
I don’t consider myself a racer by any means, but I can hold my own. There’s no doubt I beat my sleds up, just not as much anymore cuz I’m an old bastard now. Just sayin, age can make you a lot easier on your machines is all.
Sorry if I’m off topic guys, thanks for letting me air out my issues, I feel better now!!

PS I hope we can agree to disagree sometimes, Cuz i’m WAY to opinionated!

 

[TPAY243]

I have no problem agreeing to disagree that's what makes the world go around. I'm not trying to bust anybodys balls just creating conversation and keeping the tread going, even tho it's a little of track. Hope ya have a happy Thanksgiving.

 

[20/80]

I agree, lets be thankful, when Yamaha pulls the wraps of a their new chassis the Cat nightmare will end.

 

[STAIN]

 

[STAIN]

I agree, lets be thankful, when Yamaha pulls the wraps of a their new chassis the Cat nightmare will end.

No nightmare here. Godsend actually. I am now able to ride longer and more comfortably than ever!!!

You just don't get it. People actually LIKE the Procross chassis!!! Yes they do, no matter how many times you tell yourself they don't. Until Yamaha comes out with something better, and there is no evidence that they will, then this is the best chassis they have ever had.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean the majority here don't. If it was not true then the it would not have out sold the DB chassis when they where being sold side by side on show room floors for 3 years!!!!!!!
Do I wish Yamaha would come out with a new kick-#*$&@ chassis? Sure do, but I am not holding my hand over my #*$&@ waiting.

You don't like, you have made that abundantly clear. Now let it rest instead of steering every thread down the shitter.

 

[WinderFab]

No nightmare here. Godsend actually. I am now able to ride longer and more comfortably than ever!!!

You just don't get it. People actually LIKE the Procross chassis!!! Yes they do, no matter how many times you tell yourself they don't. Until Yamaha comes out with something better, and there is no evidence that they will, then this is the best chassis they have ever had.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean the majority here don't. If it was not true then the it would not have out sold the DB chassis when they where being sold side by side on show room floors for 3 years!!!!!!!
Do I wish Yamaha would come out with a new kick-#*$&@ chassis? Sure do, but I am not holding my hand over my #*$&@ waiting.

You don't like, you have made that abundantly clear. Now let it rest instead of steering every thread down the shitter.

Well said..

 

[TPAY243]

Pro Cross