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its called lean manufacturing
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As a consultant I would suggest (in so many more cool business words) branching of a new US subsidiary, all new people and no corporate culture and let them be the "creative new thinking, upp and coming, talent pool of Yamaha.. but chances for that would be slim to none, but sucsessfull.
I thought that was what the move to Canada was about?
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its called lean manufacturing
'Lean Manufacturing' is about continuous improvement for a project, process, or both where production is concerned. This is supply chain and channel fulfillment management, an entirely different exercise and expertise. It is perfectly possible to have lean manufacturing and channel inventory as independent problems (but part of a larger business concern).. Deciding not to manufacture and to limit inventory is not necessarily kaizen (an improvement), it in fact will probably cause other issues but is a useful tool to create demand or clear channel inventory while you re-tool for the future. just sayin'
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So now this thread is the most important one! What is Yamaha's next step? IN or OUT? Please let us know sooner than later and stop playing with mine and I'm sure some others heads!
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you guys might think think this is good but where i live we don't get snow until end of Nov -first part Dec if it is a good year and in this market to kay down 15k an hope it snow well ok
the Mpls- St-Paul have had bad winters for the last 4-5 years there are more new sled there than you think and they end up low balling on price so what Yamaha doing is not going to help because i will tell one thing Artic Cat know how many sleds they need to make on the line to be ROA and they will keep building to do that. This is Yamaha way of say we do not care right know to be
the Mpls- St-Paul have had bad winters for the last 4-5 years there are more new sled there than you think and they end up low balling on price so what Yamaha doing is not going to help because i will tell one thing Artic Cat know how many sleds they need to make on the line to be ROA and they will keep building to do that. This is Yamaha way of say we do not care right know to be
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Unfortunately, this will drive away potential buyers and they will seek a sled elsewhere. Once someone switches brands and is happy with the product, it's tough to lure them back. It took a number of years for me to switch brands and I guarantee my next will not be a Yammy due to their decisions. Who would buy a sled from a manufacturer with an uncertain future in sledding? I wouldn't.
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very Smart business move on their part. They’ll give us something good when the time is right.
Remember, yamaha sells a lot more of their other products than sleds. And they don’t teally need to sell sleds to stay in business. Sleds just fill the void for the winter...
Remember, yamaha sells a lot more of their other products than sleds. And they don’t teally need to sell sleds to stay in business. Sleds just fill the void for the winter...
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Indeed. Not so sure this is that GREAT for the customer. Watch and see pricing for spring order sleds. Betting its not that greatits called lean manufacturing
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Is this really a known manufacturing process- "lean Manufacturing"- if so what is the plan and history of such.its called lean manufacturing
I am not calling you into question or trying to be a jerk I just really want to know. I am in medicine not manufacturing so do NOT have a clue if this is a known manufacturing techinque.
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Call it what you want guys,Im off the clock!!!!not going there..
Sure is.. mostly for cars but applied everywhere nowadays.. good stuff to make production efficient money wise.. and (or but) this is what Textron is doing and is good at.. when buying a company you look at what you can do better to make the value greater than what you pay (obviously).. so Yamaha has no production part in this other than engine assembly witch I'm sure is rationalized and industrialized beyond reason.. so the added dimension is that they don't own any of the processes, and that's why I find it hard to think it's Yamahas decision, rather them makin the best of the hand they been delt..
Is this really a known manufacturing process- "lean Manufacturing"- if so what is the plan and history of such.
I am not calling you into question or trying to be a jerk I just really want to know. I am in medicine not manufacturing so do NOT have a clue if this is a known manufacturing techinque.
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Is this really a known manufacturing process- "lean Manufacturing"- if so what is the plan and history of such.
I am not calling you into question or trying to be a jerk I just really want to know. I am in medicine not manufacturing so do NOT have a clue if this is a known manufacturing techinque.
Yamadoo
As I said in an earlier post, this is NOT lean manufacturing. Lean Manufacturing is a process for improving efficiency, it revolves around removing the waste in any system or process that does not directly and positively impact the manufacturing outcome. The history is with large manufacturing conglomerates like Toyota who use these processes to create efficiencies which translates into improvements to gross profit (by lowering costs). One of the impacting factors of gross profit and independent of manufacturing is inventory control. If you simply make too much or too little of something, despite having a lean manufacturing process, you have an inventory problem so you introduce risk. What Yamaha appears to be doing is clearing the channel which is typically an activity you engage in prior to either exiting a market or prior to significant product introduction. The tell-tales for whether it is one or the other is the investment activity. At this point Yamaha has pulled the investment from Japan and placed it into north america (closer to the consumer). Making that sort of investment is typically associated with the future, not the past. If it was about the past then they would not be introducing new models (whether manufactured directly or with a partner) they would simply be rehashing the old ones and they would not be creating a new HQ for the division, they would be shutting it down and life cycle managing the supply chain. all just observation of course since I don't work there.
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Exactly! Interesting I tried to buy a radius rod, silver in color, for my daughter's 2001 Phazer! Yamaha's reply, unavailable! I'm lucky my dealer buys up a lot of discontinued parts when he has the chance!In the automotive world they only have to do it for 10 years.
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I’m wondering how long it is before they do what they did with Outboards and eliminate model years? It’s been about 10 years now in that market. You don’t buy a 2018 F115 outboard, you buy a F115b (3rd revision) which could have been built 3 years ago, or last week.
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