Mach Z not stock king of the lake.

[SledFreak]

The 998 is truly a fantastic engine. Too bad they put it in a Arctic Cat.
The Cat chassis is a fantastic riding and handling chassis but it has way too many flaws. Those flaws were very apparent before Yamaha got involved. Myself and I know many former pure Yamaha owners had high hopes that Yamaha would be a positive influence on changing Cats reputation for less than stellar quality engineering.
Well that never happened and many of us are now on something else.
Yamaha took the easy way out and I can’t blame them especially with the shrinking sled market.

go away...

 

[stevewithOCD]

The 998 is truly a fantastic engine. Too bad they put it in a Arctic Cat.
The Cat chassis is a fantastic riding and handling chassis but it has way too many flaws. Those flaws were very apparent before Yamaha got involved. Myself and I know many former pure Yamaha owners had high hopes that Yamaha would be a positive influence on changing Cats reputation for less than stellar quality engineering.
Well that never happened and many of us are now on something else.
Yamaha took the easy way out and I can’t blame them especially with the shrinking sled market.

Actually this is well said, especially for Mr. XP
Although i do believe Yamaha influenced Cat & made some improvements, but were limited at that, especially the time it took to enact changes.
The Cat/Procross chassis IS an excellent riding & handling platform. As good as any out there.
The 998T IS an excellent power source!
I don't think i've ever heard of an "Engine Failure".
AND i DON't blame Yamaha for partnering with Cat due to shrinking market, shrinking season & don't forget the Tsunami.
Most people don't realize that Tsunami changed Japan forever.
Yamaha makes money selling motors and that's what they are in business to do.............make money

 

[XP123]

go away...

I'm sorry I didn't mean to offend you.

 

[74Nitro]

Anybody know total marketed numbers across all brands combined. Is the market still shrinking? Are 2022-23 'one-off' numbers? Will this situation revert?

 

[Doc Harley]

Anybody know total marketed numbers across all brands combined. Is the market still shrinking? Are 2022-23 'one-off' numbers? Will this situation revert?

I assume with the china virus in play, which in turn had caused massive production issues that '21 & '22 took a sharper turn down....

 

[earthling]

In 2021 there were 133,444 snowmobiles sold worldwide; 59,234 were sold in the U.S. and 50,567 were sold in Canada. That is a quote from ISMA, which shows an uptick in growth from the previous stable year (2018/19) season which was around 132k worldwide. When you look at a longer period of time the trend is definitely upwards but slowly upwards. The analysts would always like you to believe its a rocketship powered by unobtanium but the reality is that its hard to speculate that the trend will continue indefinitely due to climate change and the fickle buying public.

Call the rest of this semi-informed speculation.

The 2019-2022/23 season numbers will look like one off (lumpier than normal) numbers in the longer trendlines due to covid. Sales fell 2019/2020 due to supply chain issues and market uncertainty. As the consumers started to look for outdoor activities in response to covid, demand rose and depleted the attractive used snowmobile inventory (the good stuff) market and customers turned to new purchases. This in turn created a demand cycle which some manufacturers took on better than others although all are under supply chain pressure. Issues like selling out annual inventories during spring due to pent up demand should not persist (lets hope not) into the future.

 

[NYTurbo]

Actually this is well said, especially for Mr. XP
Although i do believe Yamaha influenced Cat & made some improvements, but were limited at that, especially the time it took to enact changes.
The Cat/Procross chassis IS an excellent riding & handling platform. As good as any out there.
The 998T IS an excellent power source!
I don't think i've ever heard of an "Engine Failure".
AND i DON't blame Yamaha for partnering with Cat due to shrinking market, shrinking season & don't forget the Tsunami.
Most people don't realize that Tsunami changed Japan forever.
Yamaha makes money selling motors and that's what they are in business to do.............make money

There has been quite a few engine failures mostly from bad cylinder heads , and a few with bad rods, water pump failures, bad turbos in 17/18 . However will probably never be a stock turbo motor in a sled that will compare.

A new chassis is well over due, and I’m sure if it wasn’t for Covid it would of been released already.

 

[stgdz]

Man I remember when Polaris sold 100000 xlt's.


Those things were every where.

 

[Jvji24]

https://youtu.be/s1uqE4pEmkY

Uh oh

 

[Weslemkoon]

You know what....closer than I thought if it was that long of a pull. The old girl kept up good.

 

[Fords4life]

This boost must be a real animal...last winter was on a 2019 polaris frontier 129" 850 with silber turbo kit making 8psi boost, yes was perky down low and mid range but just like in N.A. form for a 2 stroke it laid over for upper pull, flat lined, after my experience on this sled i have no concern about boost running with a GOOD running stk sidewinder or 9000.

 

[Jvji24]

Video proof
Looks like the new stock king out of the box is the boost. No surprise with the weight difference.
I can’t wait to see it with some more cc s and 22 psi

 

[1nc 2000]

Ok I'll bite. Who at Speedwerx has a stock SRX?
Smoke and mirrors going on here folks.

 

[Jvji24]

Lol
Yep
Same hp range and 100 plus less pounds
How could it be!!
They also sell aftermarket parts for all the brands

 

[Fords4life]

Lol
Yep
Same hp range and 100 plus less pounds
How could it be!!
They also sell aftermarket parts for all the brands

Your math must be diffrent than mine, boost added 10 percent to base of 165? So add 16.5 =181.5?? All 998's stk have dyno'd 202 plus, i guess kinda in ball park.....not!! Lol all in good fun!